[:1]i've been to several wintergrasp events and this is how it usually goes.
my faction has the middle when im on so i dont know how it is attacking. anyway...
before the event there's major lag everywhere. some mage opens a portal to stonard/undercity/tb/etc for laughs and giggles and of course, someone does click. yea lose a few allies why dont you. sure.
anyway... once the portal actually appears we all go. ok time to defend right? run to a cannon/turret and cant find any free ones. so run back out and omg allies!! attack attack attack. all the suddent people start dropping from the raid. ok.... i still have quests to do and what's going on? looks at map. allies gained control of wintergrasp. ok... i think i counted 3 minutes. no maybe four. wtf? let me die so i can take the flight back to dalaran.
so whats going on folks? someone tell me what im doing wrong. i actually want to fight and stuff. should i just be going to strands or av or something else?|||I have not done all the aspects of this battle. The one aspect I have done involves the siege vehicles. You should see a bunch of people in vehicles. If they are not your friends you should kill them.
You also should be able to gather parts for said vehicles and then take the parts to an NPC to get yourself a ride.
Here is a video which may lend some insights: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8TzyWzwzng|||well im not really asking about what i should be doing in the battle. what im more concerned with, and what i want to start a discussion on is... why is the whole wintergrasp pvp battle ground so broken? or do people not see the problem in 5 minute bg's with very long resets?|||Gaining access to Archavon and leaving some room to get it done is one of the reasons. Having time to get some stonekeepers shards from heroics is another. Destroying the fortress seems very easy compared to defending it, but they might have made it that way to make sure both factions get to control it.
I found this brilliant Archavon guide for anyone wondering what it's about btw.|||maybe the way to look at it is kinda like the spirit towers in outland.
really a shame given that the original promise ws "a whole zone dedicated to PvP"|||I guess it depends on the server and time u do it.
On nagrand Horde willhave 1+ raids going, We can defend for 20 mins or go take their towers and reduce it to 10 odd minutes.
When we attack unfortunatley we can do it in 6 minutes. id prefer it if it went longer.
I believe originally u had to cap the relic e.g. timer 5 odd seconds which allowed people to disrupt your cap. recently its been changed to just run up to it once the door is down which causes shorter games.|||yea i wish my battles were 20 minutes.|||Well, the fortress design is such that they can zerg it and take it, thus 'winning' the zone. I put winning in quotes because the fault of WG to me is that they just need to get all the way in and boom, done. /yawn... The rest of the zone is irrelevant. I was rather hoping that the 'zone pvp' idea would bs something like having to hold 2+ objectives at the same time since, as long as you can win by capturing X everyone will zerg that.|||Quote:
Well, the fortress design is such that they can zerg it and take it, thus 'winning' the zone. I put winning in quotes because the fault of WG to me is that they just need to get all the way in and boom, done. /yawn... The rest of the zone is irrelevant. I was rather hoping that the 'zone pvp' idea would bs something like having to hold 2+ objectives at the same time since, as long as you can win by capturing X everyone will zerg that.
But the rest of the zone is not irrelevant. After all if you take the towers to the south you take about 10 or so minutes away from the clock. So, its in the interest of the group defending wg to take those towers.
In some servers it may be a bit difficult to win wg while having tenacity. But thats because there's so many more hordes (that being the case in my server) then allies fighting in the area.
Re lag: At times its so bad even moving is difficult or even impossible :(. But thats probably because of all the people in such a small area.|||Quote:
i've been to several wintergrasp events and this is how it usually goes.
my faction has the middle when im on so i dont know how it is attacking. anyway...
before the event there's major lag everywhere. some mage opens a portal to stonard/undercity/tb/etc for laughs and giggles and of course, someone does click. yea lose a few allies why dont you. sure.
anyway... once the portal actually appears we all go. ok time to defend right? run to a cannon/turret and cant find any free ones. so run back out and omg allies!! attack attack attack. all the suddent people start dropping from the raid. ok.... i still have quests to do and what's going on? looks at map. allies gained control of wintergrasp. ok... i think i counted 3 minutes. no maybe four. wtf? let me die so i can take the flight back to dalaran.
so whats going on folks? someone tell me what im doing wrong. i actually want to fight and stuff. should i just be going to strands or av or something else?
What server do you play on!?!? I play alliance and on my server it's the exact same thing!!!!
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