Does anyone happen to have an answer for this? This is completely just baffling me as to what kind of advantages the horde have over the Alliance. Why are they so better? What makes them so better? I've been trying to do Arathi Basin for the past couple of days, and I've never been on an Alliance team that has over 500points compared to the Horde's 2000. Member numbers aren't always the problem... frequently I see the teams to be rather even, or even 1 more player.
Same with Warsong Gulch... it was just a blowout. Every BG I try (I haven't tried AV yet, not high enough level) it's just one devastating loss after another. Can someone please enlighten me? You have no idea how upset this is getting me anymore... I just have no answers for anything and all of my cries for information result in me getting no answers. Is there anyone, anyone who is specifically likes any given side that has an answer? Does the Horde know why they're so good? Is it this way on every server, or only the servers I've been on? Have the Alliance just accepted the fact that they're never going to win and that's that? Does anything change in Alterac Valley?|||Horde almost always ends up as a more organized group, Alliance seem just to be out for kills on their own behalf not adding much to the team. This is just what I have observed, also this is mainly in the 20-29 and 30-39 brackets, it may be different higher up.
But as far as I know their are no advantages to either side especialy so in WSG as the 2 sides are more or less mirriored layout wise, just different looks.|||I can understand the organization, I haven't seen any playing BG's. Btw, I was in the 40-49 BG... It's sad that I'm always doing the most damage though, I guess it's just the role of the shadow priest.
What do you feel my role in the BG's should be? I do seem to be doing a lot of damage, I'm very good at making sure everyone has a DoT... I've been trying various ways to see my raid groups to see who I can heal, but unfortunately keeping track of so many people is tough. Then again I don't know if I would see a benefit either way, being DPS or Heal.|||Quote:
Is it this way on every server, or only the servers I've been on? Have the Alliance just accepted the fact that they're never going to win and that's that? Does anything change in Alterac Valley?
Really depends on what server you're on. I was on one where the horde lost av over 95% of the time. And the reason wasnt because alliance was good. Was because so many hordes are there simply to farm honor. So they stay in the tunnel and do nothing to help. Recently I moved to a new realm and tried av. To my amazement we win over 98% of the games I've been on.|||My soon-to-be-fully-pvp-shaman lvl 48 atm really shines at BG. Im alliance and im allways top of the team, and atleast most flags returned.
If my team sux (it happens, alot) i play smart and try and get the enemy FC down. Maybe get another player in to help.
Frostshock + earthbind and they cant move, a warrior or a mage is ez for more slow/stunnage.
Hordes look mean, they are bigger, and most of them love to zerg. Its in their whole nature of things. Most hordes (imo) are older then alliance players, being naturally smarter and have more teamplay abilities.
Plus they have ud rogues :(|||first off Amen to weje witht he whole age thing 2nd off on darkspear horde gets rocked every time in AV by the alliance. HOWEVER when av weekend rolls around alliance never stands a chance. horde stomps on them|||EDITED: Oops, sorry, wrong response. Not my fault tho, had to re-read the previous poster's message twice to get it right|||The Horde don't always win . . .
My battlegroup wins more than we loose it seems
It depends on many things:
1) Your Battlegroup - some just suck - your server ages etc
2) Your bracket 19,29,39 and the level you join it - just 2 lvl 25's in 29 bg may make all the difference and may make the team loose if they're against a 28/29 team. I'm not saying to not go then - go and have fun - jsut know it may be your level that's the issue (less powerful spells and abilities etc)
3) You gear
4) See #3 - Twinks - their number of twinks versus your number of twinks (the other day I was the only twink in the 29 bracket - has 24 kills to everyone elses 4-5 - we won - not always the case though - if they 6 twinks to our 1 or 2 or none - it's over)
5) Players not knowing how to really play the BG they're in (WSG for instance - OMG how many times are the alliance pushed to the GY and then they fight at their GY for ever - sayin we're trapped - . . .WTF use the tunnel or the ramp - don't fight under your own GY - make the EFC run at you - not away from you - thus being on their side makes all the diff - but yet they still do - and once you're pushed to your GY and stay there for 5 mins - might as well leave battleground cause it's over as they are now controlling mid)
6) The time of day/night that you play - usually your older players are getting on later once the kids are in bed etc - which tend to help us get more wins
7) If they're a premade and are using vent
8) They often protect their healers - some alliance have issues with this - as I'm sure ppl on both sides do - but it seems alliance will let the healer die and then say "Thanks for Heals Noob" lol
9) Hero Syndrome - Rambo anyone? If you're not a stealth class - don't go off alone - period - treat BG's like real war (not movie war) as there is never the 1 True Hero that kills all . . . . LOL - it's a team effort - group up
10) AB/EOS - 2-3 on D at all time on controlled nodes Mofo's - geez . . . lol
11) from a diff post
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I believe that Alliance looses those BGs often because of the Negative Reinforcement from the kids / adults telling people "they suk" or that "we're gonna loose" even before the BG starts. The human psyche is a strange and easily (even if subconsciously) influenced thing.
12) http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400812
13) http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386750
14) No Communication - please make a set of macro's for each BG and put them as buttons somewhere AND USE THEM - to include -(AB) INC - LM,BS, STBLS, FARM (WSG) EFC TUNNEL, EFC GY, EFC RAMP - INC etc etc
15) Tunnel vision - they only see the guy they're fighting in front of them
16) Not killing the healers first
17) Not going into your video options and setting the scroll out to the FARTHEST setting - then play that way - OMG look how much of the board I can see now!! ZOMG!!!! lol
|||Problem exists between Keyboard and Chair.|||Partly self fulfilling prophecy. If the average alliance player knows they are going to lose they go for honor kills instead of winning. The horde knowing that a win generates more honor(I think?) Focuses on winning.
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